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What is a good older open bowl small scraper? 6 to 10 yards

Started by MattR22 replies

  1. MattRJunior Member#1

    I've only had Allis Chalmers 260s. Considering something smaller than that for ATV trail work. Around 8 ft wide. Must be open bowl. Thank you

  2. Jacob WaldnerNew Member#2

    John Deere 762A shifter switch can build you one

  3. mowingmanSenior Member#3

    I would suggest a good old Cat 613, if you can find a good used one. They are dependable old scrapers, fairly easy to get parts for, and about the size you seem to need. I liked the 613 better than the 615, but I guess you could look for one of those too.

  4. Catsparky1New Member#4

    Cat 611 if you can find them . They didn't make many of them .

  5. MattRJunior Member#5

    mowingman said: I would suggest a good old Cat 613, if you can find a good used one. They are dependable old scrapers, fairly easy to get parts for, and about the size you seem to need. I liked the 613 better than the 615, but I guess you could look for one of those too. Click to expand... Aren't these elevating scrapers? I've never seen an open bowl in these versions

  6. mowingmanSenior Member#6

    Yes, I should have clarified that. I just don't think you can find a small open bowl scraper any more. Thought one of these elevating scrapers might meet your needs, as they are small. Just a thought, I wonder how much work it would be to convert one of these to an open bowl? Maybe if the machine price was cheap enough and you are a good fabricator?

  7. TonesSenior Member#7

    Wabco made a 10yd scraper, the D Pull but good luck finding one of them. Terex also made a 8-10yd twin power, build for the British military, some even made it to Australia. Being air portable I wouldn't be surprised if the US didn't have them.

  8. mowingmanSenior Member#8

    Tones said: Wabco made a 10yd scraper, the D Pull but good luck finding one of them. Terex also made a 8-10yd twin power, build for the British military, some even made it to Australia. Being air portable I wouldn't be surprised if the US didn't have them. Click to expand... A little Wabco was available. some referred to it as a "D Roadster", as it was a fast little machine. I think parts would be very hard, if not impossible to find for one of those machines. Euclid offered the little S7, but only in a single engine version. If you could find one of those, you MIGHT be able to still get some parts. Both machines are now considered antiques/classics.

  9. traxcavatorJunior Member#9

    There were some 613 and 615 open bowl scrapers built. I believe Rome may have built the bowls but I’m not sure. There were also some Dresser 412B scrapers built that have a bowl similar to the 613 version. The 611 was an open bowl scraper that Cat produced using the 615 tractor. Cat only sold them for a couple years in the early 2000s. I don’t think Cat built the bowls for these machines and in my opinion the bowls did not load very well at all.

  10. traxcavatorJunior Member#10

    Here is a link to 412b up for auction. Pardon Our Interruption

  11. TonesSenior Member#12

    traxcavator said: There were some 613 and 615 open bowl scrapers built. I believe Rome may have built the bowls but I’m not sure. There were also some Dresser 412B scrapers built that have a bowl similar to the 613 version. The 611 was an open bowl scraper that Cat produced using the 615 tractor. Cat only sold them for a couple years in the early 2000s. I don’t think Cat built the bowls for these machines and in my opinion the bowls did not load very well at all. Click to expand... All Cat and IH elevator bowls were made by Johnson originally.

  12. traxcavatorJunior Member#13

    Tones said: All Cat and IH elevator bowls were made by Johnson originally. Click to expand... I was referencing the open bowls, not the elevators.

  13. TonesSenior Member#14

    Well bugger me, never knew IH made them this small.

  14. mowingmanSenior Member#16

    We leased a couple of those 623F scrappers years ago. For some reason, which I do not recall, the operators liked the older 623B machines a lot better. Seems like we had a lot more mechanical problems with the F'S also. We returned them at the end of the lease. At the time, I heard the F series were not very good machines. This was just hearsay, although I was not impressed with ours.

  15. traxcavatorJunior Member#17

    Tones said: Well bugger me, never knew IH made them this small. Click to expand... Here is a pic of a 613 open bowl. I haven’t been able to find any of the 615 open bowls but there is a local contractor near me that ran two of them in mid to late 90s.

  16. PattroyNew Member#18

    MattR said: I've only had Allis Chalmers 260s. Considering something smaller than that for ATV trail work. Around 8 ft wide. Must be open bowl. Thank you Click to expand... I’ve got a Clark about that size. Cummins engine. But I’m west central Montana. im looking @ a fiat allis 161? Paddle wheel—-low hour. Got a lot of muck to load that’s hard to get rid of—-this you can raise the paddles and it has solid floor—-but I know very little about any fiat. And scraper is 300+ miles—haven’t seen it

  17. terex herderJunior Member#19

    The later model of the Wabco was the 11 yard 111A. It was an paddle wagon, 4-71 and an Allison.

  18. treemuncherSenior Member#20

    I have an old 101F (pretty sure that is the correct number) that I need to get rid of. The elevator was pulled out and repaired but I never put it back in. I was using it to haul gravel at my place and loading it with the excavator. Worked well and kept grade. I will have to pull the manual and check the specs. I am quite certain it is 8' wide or less and rated at 9 cubic yards. Cummins V8 power.

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