Just as easy to install new plates with the new acid. Short video illustrates the process. This is how I rebuild my batteries. I Never purchase new ones
Battery problem
Started by InsleyGuy51 replies
CoaldustSuper User#21 materthegreaterSuper User#22 Wait, he's wearing socks and slippers instead of sandals and also gloves! Must be OSHA started cracking down on third world countries.
_Weldman_Junior Member#23 Alright I better step in before anyone gets hurt here (mentally & physically)! As some know I live off grid, that means there is a battery here I better maintain despite any temperature, condition or how I feel. We aren't talking licking 9 volt battery size we are talking thousands of AH that weigh more than your Honda Civic. So.... first step, take that battery to your nearest auto parts store and get a replacement. You can beat your meat against it all you want, but all you are doing is stroking and not cumming. There is several phases in a PV (solar system) that it goes through to maintain the battery. For sulfation as @Truck Shop is talking about we call that equalization mode in the "solar world", high voltage knocks it off at 15.2VDC and double that as you go up the food chain of a nominal 24VDC, 32 VDC and 48VDC with low as amps possible. Reason I say toss it is the lead plates are so paper thin that there isn't much to recover, you are on the buying time end while risking safety. Now if you were playing with (2) 6VDC or (6) 2VDC batteries then you would be on the winning side. As for AGM, those require different parameters than SLA (sealed lead acid) batteries. By all means don't listen to me.... That's on a cloudy day...
Truck ShopSuper User#24 Now return to {engine only runs on full choke} for full story. *
HarleyHappySuper User#25 Gonna be one of those days, I guess.
Mr. WrenchSenior Member#26 Coaldust said: Just as easy to install new plates with the new acid. Short video illustrates the process. This is how I rebuild my batteries. I Never purchase new ones Click to expand... All joking aside, I am amazed at some of the things they accomplish with so little resources. How would we survive without the resources that we have? Sometimes I think they are smarter than we are.
HarleyHappySuper User#27 Funny to think, most of us would be lost, if we didn’t have a cell phone charger and couldn’t just go to 7-11 to buy one. Sometime, look at some of the Mickey Mouse stuff they come up with to charge a cell phone on U-tube. We are in different countries but it feels like we are in different time dimensions and we would have difficulty keeping up, if we had to.
LCA078Senior Member#28 Wait, wait- my turn, my turn!!! (...to take a swing the horse laying motionless on the ground.) InsleyGuy said: Had a friend tell me today that he's had some success with dumping the batt and refilling with fresh acid Click to expand... Weldman said: Reason I say toss it is the lead plates are so paper thin that there isn't much to recover, Click to expand... Insley- listen to Weldman on this one as battery manufacturing has become efficient over the years by using thinner plates to give more current in a smaller form factor. Yes, there was a time when my grandfather would dump out a dead tractor battery, wash out the black stuff with the garden hose, and then was able to fill it back up with a bag of electrolyte solution he purchased at the hardware store and use it again for another season. This was also a time for us when the cost of a new battery was the same as putting food on the table for a couple weeks. The lead plates back then were much thicker compared to today's high amp batteries and handled that method fairly well. In that video posted above, you see how thin today's plates are and how the plates are separated by paper media that traps a lot of the lead sulfate so you really can't rinse them out any more like the old days. You can also see the lead sulfate that did fall out to the bottom and can easily short out a cell. But hey, you do you when it comes to batteries. For anyone rolling their eyes at this repeat clubbing....yes, it's repeating basic info over and over but we're also storing it for the future when someone else in the same predicament comes along and hopefully searches for it. Or better yet when in the future we have AI scrubbing forums like this for expert info and synthesizes it into a video that's directly injected into our brains...
InsleyGuyJunior Member#29 I was pretty sure from start that I would have to buy a battery , but because it is somewhat new there might be chance of recovery. Sadly that is not the case. There is a huge amount of knowledge on here and this has been very educational for me. And really, isn't that why most of us are here? Now as soon as I find my reciept I'm off to the store.
CoaldustSuper User#30 InsleyGuy said: I was pretty sure from start that I would have to buy a battery , but because it is somewhat new there might be chance of recovery. Sadly that is not the case. There is a huge amount of knowledge on here and this has been very educational for me. And really, isn't that why most of us are here? Now as soon as I find my reciept I'm off to the store. Click to expand... I’m glad you are a good sport about it. Good luck at the parts store. Lift with your legs.
CoaldustSuper User#31 Does anyone store their batteries on the concrete?
HATCHEQUIPJunior Member#32 Coal now your just breaking it off in the horse
Truck ShopSuper User#33 HarleyHappy said: Gonna be one of those days, I guess. Click to expand...
HATCHEQUIPJunior Member#34 Good one TS
LCA078Senior Member#35 BTW- Is it just my imagination or did a lot of specialty batteries for a tractor, lawn mower, motorcycle, etc. come dry back in the day and you had to add the electrolyte to it? Then let it sit overnight before you could use it? I swear I remember as a kid watching my grandpa installing a battery and then filling it up with the accompanying bottle/bag of acid so we could use the tractor the next morning.
PonyJunior Member#36 Don't know about back in the day, I'm only 55 and remember doing this with a tractor battery not long after I started driving. So that's only 35yrs ago, but maybe as a country we're just 50yrs behind everyone else.
_Weldman_Junior Member#37 Pony said: Don't know about back in the day, I'm only 55 and remember doing this with a tractor battery not long after I started driving. So that's only 35yrs ago, but maybe as a country we're just 50yrs behind everyone else. Click to expand... I swear this country is 50 years behind the developed world in PV products available including batteries. Can't wait til the LiFePO4 battery and BMS programming questions come out, it's going to be a hoot on here!
CoaldustSuper User#38 LCA078 said: BTW- Is it just my imagination or did a lot of specialty batteries for a tractor, lawn mower, motorcycle, etc. come dry back in the day and you had to add the electrolyte to it? Then let it sit overnight before you could use it? I swear I remember as a kid watching my grandpa installing a battery and then filling it up with the accompanying bottle/bag of acid so we could use the tractor the next morning. Click to expand... Back in my early Cat dealership days, all the 8D and 4D batts arrived dry. Had the juice drum full of electrolyte, the stained patch of concrete in the corner and the rubber apron.
Truck ShopSuper User#39 Every parts store, every gas station that did tune-ups, tires, brakes {remember those? they even pumped the gas} sold batteries, they were dry and filled there.
LCA078Senior Member#40 Wow...didn't realize dry batteries were that common and that recent. Kinda wish it was still like that instead of gambling a bit on how long wet batts have been sitting on a shelf. I know there's a date tag on batts but sometimes you don't get the pick of litter.