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New generators are completely useless

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  1. Shimmy1Super User#1

    My 1700 watt Champion propane had died with about 800 hours on it, so last winter I bought a 4k. Used it a couple times, was pizzed thinking there was something wrong with the regulator because it was never running when I came back. It's currently running a sump pump in a new basement I dug, and had quit numerous times. We are 100% convinced it's the ******* carbon monoxide safety shutdown. Why in the hell do we have to deal with this crap?? It's sitting OUTSIDE, in the middle of fricking nowhere. Please tell me that the CO monitor can be bypassed or eliminated, because I'm ready to set it on fire.

  2. CoaldustSuper User#2

    I know, right? You have to bypass those things immediately. Most idiotic, nanny-state, frustrating, worthless device ever. Plus, the sensors only last a couple years.

  3. HarleyHappySuper User#3

    My somewhat new to me Generac, which I would have sworn to have a plastic gas tank, rusted out in the middle and developed a crack in a seam. Still looked like black plastic but was metal. Only had for 4 years and has about 50 hours on it. Adapted a cheap ( 20 bucks) China plastic tank, welded on new brackets and now runs again.

  4. TomANew Member#4

    My 8k champion battery ran down. Would not start with recoil. Found it had shut off on gas and would not work with dead battery. Disabled and all good.

  5. Birken VogtSenior Member#5

    All that Chinese junk is worthless. Buy a Honda or nothing at all. Old and used is fine if you don't want new.

  6. Shimmy1Super User#6

    Birken Vogt said: All that Chinese junk is worthless. Buy a Honda or nothing at all. Old and used is fine if you don't want new. Click to expand... Honda doesn't make a small, propane one that I've found?? I need to be able to run generators for days at a time, a 250 gallon propane tank will run one for a LONG time

  7. Birken VogtSenior Member#7

    Honda made a propane one once upon a time but discontinued it. Like 20 years ago. All that are propane now are Chinese gimmicks. You can have all the gimmicks you want but if the base engine and generator are junk it's no use as you are discovering. You used to be able to buy Honda generators already converted to propane by some guy, good luck on warranty though. They also make kits to DIY, it is easy to do.

  8. Birken VogtSenior Member#8

    Also the 1 quart of splash lube oil needs to be checked a couple of times per day

  9. Shimmy1Super User#9

    Birken Vogt said: Also the 1 quart of splash lube oil needs to be checked a couple of times per day Click to expand... It gets checked every day, and changed every 4 days. Doesn't use any oil, remarkably. If I could just get rid of that ******* CO shutdown. My last one made 800 hours, I need to look it over, it just lost spark, could just be a coil...

  10. crane operatorSuper User#10

    Getting ready for cold weather? Just curious if you have thought about bumping up in size to get a little bit more industrial generator. Something like a old light plant, or we've got two old genset from cell tower sites, I think they are propane inline six fords. Used to work around a company that had some tiny trailer mounted whisperwatt, multiquip generators/ welders and they seemed pretty good. Most of the big class A motorhomes have a propane generator (mostly see Onan's)- find one out of a junkyard. Or one with a bad roof that someone is parting out. Got to be better than the northern tool/ harbor freight specials.

  11. TomANew Member#11

    I have a couple of 3k onans out of RVs. They are 120v only. I wonder if with the right transformer if they could make 240v to run pump.

  12. MarshallPowerGenSenior Member#12

    Shimmy1 said: Honda doesn't make a small, propane one that I've found?? I need to be able to run generators for days at a time, a 250 gallon propane tank will run one for a LONG time Click to expand... Winco runs Hondas in their Tri-fuel portable units and still keep the Honda warranty. It's a buy once, cry once situation though (although it is almost $900 cheaper for Labor Day weekend). Winco HPS12000HE Tri-Fuel Portable Generator - Winco Generators - Agricultural, Commercial, Contractor & Residential This unit was built with versatility in mind. It is the only Tri-Fuel capable, Honda-powered generator on the market that DOES NOT void the engine warranty. It’s constructed with the same engine and generator end we use on our Industrial WL12000HE. Don't rely on a modified generator to have the... www.wincogenerator.com

  13. Shimmy1Super User#13

    crane operator said: Getting ready for cold weather? Just curious if you have thought about bumping up in size to get a little bit more industrial generator. Something like a old light plant, or we've got two old genset from cell tower sites, I think they are propane inline six fords. Used to work around a company that had some tiny trailer mounted whisperwatt, multiquip generators/ welders and they seemed pretty good. Most of the big class A motorhomes have a propane generator (mostly see Onan's)- find one out of a junkyard. Or one with a bad roof that someone is parting out. Got to be better than the northern tool/ harbor freight specials. Click to expand... It's currently running a sump pump for a new basement on a property without power yet.

  14. pittsburgh cat manSuper User#14

    I’m sure overriding the co2 monitoring shouldn’t be a big deal it probably just grounds the coil

  15. Shimmy1Super User#15

    pittsburgh cat man said: I’m sure overriding the co2 monitoring shouldn’t be a big deal it probably just grounds the coil Click to expand... Problem is there are at least 5 different wires going to that module, 3 of the same color, so without cutting one at a time and trying, it could be a major experience figuring out which one. I've found a few videos, and it seems like different models have different colors, and I haven't found a video for my specific model.

  16. Shimmy1Super User#17

    pittsburgh cat man said: How about taping off the port on the sensor Click to expand... Might try that.

  17. Tyler d4cSenior Member#18

    What would a coal miner do with a fauty co that keeps kicking ?????? Toss a bag of rock dust on top it so it dont read!!!!!! Dont let the fed see it!

  18. Birken VogtSenior Member#19

    Diesel light towers are great if you can find one.

  19. Shimmy1Super User#20

    Birken Vogt said: Diesel light towers are great if you can find one. Click to expand... I want one, but $8000 isn't in the budget to have one, it's the very reason I'm hauling around a propane tank, and running a $700 generator.

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