Grinding or rough feel on 416c when curling front bucket.

Cmark said: As mentioned above. Hard to move lever is usually a problem with the bucket levelling system. Click to expand... Usually it’s not grinding, and you can feel it pushing on your hand, when boom is coming down.

Pull the pins on linkage and see if it gets better might want to remove rod so it doesn’t go thru windshield

pittsburgh cat man said: Pull the pins on linkage and see if it gets better might want to remove rod so it doesn’t go thru windshield Click to expand... Even checking for packed mud would get somewhere. I’ve seen all kids of stuff on those things. They can drown the darn junk in the swamp, couldn’t recover for a few weeks, after yanking it out of the bog - mud is packed on top of the transmission solid! And “let’s replace every freaking seal in this POJ, wire wheel and polish every damned shaft and rod” program - begins!!! Been there - done that!

When I bought my 3010D Kubota, the guy I bought it from had tried bush hogging a swamp, trying to dry up some of his land. He had dropped the tractor and bush hog through the ice and it was through about 3 1/2 feet. Water was only a couple of feet deep. Ice was pretty thick but the swamp gases had thinned the ice around the saplings and tall grass clumps. So being a good neighbor, my father and brother and I, spent 2 days getting it up and out of that swamp. We disconnected the quick attach front bucket and slid that over the top of the tractor and bush hog. I used my 416 with the front chained to a huge pine and used about 150’ of chain and the backhoe. We used a 4 wheeler cause the chain was so heavy and a whole bunch of rough cut oak. Took it outta that swamp 4’ at a time. We got done, by that time everything, even the hydrostatic drive were frozen up. The neighbors wife demanded he sell it, as he was going to kill himself with it. We got a good deal but it was Hell, changing all the oils and a few seals. Everything in it was a milkshake , after thawing it out for a few days. I had to weld the 3 point linkage together on the bush hog, as I had cut it all apart to get it up and out of the ice.

Finally back dealing with this after a total knee replacement. Today I took a deep look with an assistant moving the control stick while I could watch what did what from under the control lever. It took a while of cleaning and oiling but eventually I realized there is a bent rod that is stopping the lever from actuating the curl circuit. The grinding noise was from the spring loaded cylinder that connects to the curl/dump function of the hydraulic control unit. Thank you again to everyone for your input!

Here is a photo of the rod. Got it straightened out but bent hydraulic lines are the issue. I will consider how I am going to get them back to about the correct place so I can put the rod back on later. How did this travesty come about? Getting buried to the frame in a bog. Well clearly way above the frame to have done this. Long story involving a lot of rain during that time and a overflowing pond onto an area that I had driven across many times before.

For those seeking a solution, I spent a couple of days on this and it turns out the curl up function was prevented due to a mechanical auto level linkage. After freeing it up and disconnecting the auto level linkage the bucket controls operate freely and it works like a new one! Just need to remember no auto level but I’m not sure it ever worked. Thanks to this group I have used you on many occasions for solutions, much appreciated!

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