Farm and harvest Machinery

And they will continue to operate because no one does anything about it. The case I worked had a scammer in Florida who was eventually convicted of fraud. I filed the police reports for the people who were scammed. People assumed nothing would get done and might have just let it go on and on. The guy didn't get the punishment that he should have gotten and I don't think anyone got their money back but the guy is no longer advertising rebuilt Cat engines all over the world. Has any of this made it into the people who write law? No because no one actually reports it. It doesn't get into the news and there is no public outcry and no leverage put on law makers and the pimple just keeps getting bigger. The worst of all this is that it happens most to the people who can least afford it. At least get the incident on the record somewhere.

I asked a well regarded member of a motorcycle forum I'm on to visit the Del Mar office today. Here is a pic of the company office. It is actually an art gallery. So, yeah, I'd say it is a scam. According to the ladies that work in the gallery, the police and FBI told them until someone loses money, LE and the FBI can't do anything. BTW, the guy I asked to visit was the second person today that went to check these guys out in person. View attachment IMG_6633.jpeg .

Mike_27 said: Here are the original images from their reviews. Click to expand... Would you mind sharing how you found those? Tineye didn't do much for me when I used it to search the pics.

mowingman said: Noticed something in the photo of the guys standing under a loader . Why does that tractor have what appears to be a PTO and part of a 3 point hitch, under the front end? Hummmm?? Click to expand... That’s pretty common in Europe. It would appear at first glance to be an AI error but it’s a real thing. My new holland tractor has a provision for a front PTO but is not equipped with it.

mowingman said: Noticed something in the photo of the guys standing under a loader . Why does that tractor have what appears to be a PTO and part of a 3 point hitch, under the front end? Hummmm?? Click to expand... Could be for front mounted snow blower, not many of them in your backyard.

Gotscammed said: I asked a well regarded member of a motorcycle forum I'm on to visit the Del Mar office today. Here is a pic of the company office. It is actually an art gallery. So, yeah, I'd say it is a scam. According to the ladies that work in the gallery, the police and FBI told them until someone loses money, LE and the FBI can't do anything. BTW, the guy I asked to visit was the second person today that went to check these guys out in person. View attachment 363592 . Click to expand... Did you not believe it was a scam earlier? It was pretty obvious.

Welder Dave said: Did you not believe it was a scam earlier? It was pretty obvious. Click to expand... What did you see that makes it pretty obvious? The incredibly low prices? I did everything I could think of the check out the company. When I thought about it afterward, I think I wanted very badly for it to be real. Even with all the clues I mentioned above, I still didn't want to believe it was a scam. Now when I see a price too good to be true, I just keep looking.

First you said you were scammed, then you seemed to try and forgive the fake company. After it was confirmed to be a scam you still didn't believe it.

Welder Dave said: First you said you were scammed, then you seemed to try and forgive the fake company. After it was confirmed to be a scam you still didn't believe it. Click to expand... I hope that isn't what I wrote, 'cause once it was conformed, I definitely believed it. That's why I filed a report with my local PD the day before my money was returned and followed up with them when I received the pic of the office. Do I wish it wasn't a scam? Yes,'cause the prices are great. But it is fake. I'd really like to know what made it so obvious to you. Or do you mean it was obvious after you read thru everything in the thread?

Gotscammed said: Would you mind sharing how you found those? Tineye didn't do much for me when I used it to search the pics. Click to expand... Sorry, but it is a trade secret ...

Welder Dave said: First you said you were scammed, then you seemed to try and forgive the fake company. After it was confirmed to be a scam you still didn't believe it. Click to expand... Dave like I learned before you're next to godlike with your scam detection. But once again it is good that he posted that image so other, less experienced, people can see what they are up against.

Gotscammed said: When I thought about it afterward, I think I wanted very badly for it to be real. Even with all the clues I mentioned above, I still didn't want to believe it was a scam. Click to expand... ^^^This right here is what they are counting on to screw people out of their hard earned money. Everyone thinks they've found the deal of lifetime and all they see is the money savings. There is a reason this is a very old saying - "If it looks to good to be true it probably isn't." As far as the website goes it took me less than 5 minutes of going through the site to tell it was a scam. It's not hard - just go to the pics of the equipment for sale and pay close attention to what's in the background.

Mike_27 said: Dave like I learned before you're next to godlike with your scam detection. But once again it is good that he posted that image so other, less experienced, people can see what they are up against. Click to expand... It sounded like a scam from Gotscammed's first post, the 2nd in the thread. There's been enough scams revealed on the forum it's not very hard to recognize new ones. When equipment is half the price it's very rare for it to be legit. Maybe I've read more threads about scams than others so can see the same pattern that scammers use. I hate seeing people get scammed.

Farm & Harvest got me for $18300.00. The day The tractor was supposed to be delivered I got an e mail that the driver was in a wreck and the tractor was damaged. Said my money would be refunded but it never happened.

Holy crap, that really sucks!

Same thing happened to a guy used to work with. Delivery truck in a wreck, tractor damaged, BUT for another $3000 he could upgrade to a shinier, bigger John Deere tractor... He made another wire transfer.......One born every minute.

stinky64 said: Same thing happened to a guy used to work with. Delivery truck in a wreck, tractor damaged, BUT for another $3000 he could upgrade to a shinier, bigger John Deere tractor... He made another wire transfer.......One born every minute. Click to expand... Wow. Now that's dumb. My own father who is a very smart man that was a very successful business owner almost fell for a similar scam because he is such a tight wad. He was telling me that he found a Milwaukee 18 volt set, forgot the arrangement but ya'll know the type. Normally this set would sell in the $600 range however he "found" a "new" one on line for less than $300. Fortunately he doesn't buy things online himself so he told his girlfriend to order it. Thankfully she looked at it, said something is not right and did not buy it. A few days later he was telling me about it and showed me the website. I told him that's a scam. He replied "but it's 1/2 price!". And that's why the scam still works over and over again..

This guy was not the sharpest crayon in the box, but was so convinced this deal was legit he convinced another guy, the head of maintenance at the feed mill into "buying" a tractor as well, same result. First clue of a scam should have been the "no sales tax" deal in New York State. Once again If It's Too Good To Be True...........

All this discussion is why I don't bash too much on Ritchie Bros and their massive organization. While RB has its issues, I'm fairly confident if I buy something from their website, it's legit. I can't say that for Honest_John's_Equipment.com.