crawler dozer "DRESSTA TD16N

DRESSTA TD16N​ TD16N, il D6, i D61/D71 e il PR726 c aterpillar D5/D6, Komatsu D61/D71 Liebherr PR726 . What do you think of this crawler tractor and its most similar competitors? I believe it has a hydrostatic transmission, not a power shift. Thank you. Criticism of the strengths and weaknesses of the machine, its performance, and its efficiency. Thank you. DRESSTA TD16N 305 kN (31,10 tonnellate) CATERPILLAR D6 295 kN (30,08 tonnellate) KOMATSU D71 305 kN (31,10 tonnellate) LIEBHERR PR726 200 kN (20,40 tonnellate)

Very unusual for sure! Great visibility but what is it like to work on?? Some things like black canister on the back corner look vulnerable to damage. I'd guess the short foldable ends of the blade are to reduce the width for transport?? Just a very different design, perhaps over engineered. I doubt anyone on the forum has any experience with one.

Thanks for your input. I believe the car is Soviet or perhaps Chinese. Is your opinion positive or negative? Perhaps it's better to rely on a classic used brand and model, tested and guaranteed by experience? Am I wrong? Thanks for your valuable input.

Am I seeing the radiators in the back ? If the black cylinder on the rear is an air filter, and the machine is fully hydrostatic drive.....the engine might be in "backwards" like a skid loader. This would also explain the greatly sloped front hood, might just be covering the drive pumps.

So much wrong here. If it's a new machine, they must have banged into it installing the ripper. Rust trails on the track frames under the top rollers, and the pins for the ripper. She's a beaut, Clark.

Those are the new version of the old Dresser/IH machines. They sure have evolved into a different looking dozer.

mowingman said: Those are the new version of the old Dresser/IH machines. They sure have evolved into a different looking dozer. Click to expand... "Now with Retsin"......

International Harvester built the TD series dozers in the US I believe in Illinois into the 1970s as I recall and then moved production to Poland. It stayed there for a time and then was moved to Korea. I was working for the IH dealer during that time frame. Production was moved back to Poland in the late 1980 to early 1990s and I was working for the Komatsu dealer then. Keep in mind that there was an ownership change at IH to Dresser and then to Komatsu. The early machines from Poland during that time period suffered from lots of engineering issues. Things like the blade C frames rubbing against the main frames, roller and idler seals leaking on new tractors, exhaust systems getting busted up from vibrations and so on a so forth. Komatsu had its own line of small dozers and incorporated what was called the Dresser line. Some sizes were dropped for the Komatsu machine and in other sizes the Dresser designs were built. Eventually Komatsu decided to drop the Dresser machines completely. The factory in Poland was set free and some how came up with financing to start all over again. The name became Dressta and they retained the model names on their dozers. The designs didn't change much for the next 15 or so years. They stayed Cummins engines with torque converters, power shift transmissions and planetary steering. I've worked on a few of the machines, mostly TD12 models. I've run a couple for appraisals and found the cabs tight for a medium size person and very clumsy to operate. I don't know if they ever took up hystat drive trains. Very few dealers in the US brought on this line of machine even though they were very inexpensive to purchase. The ones I appraised were being offered up for trade in on the more common brands. The usual comment by the dealer managers was something to the effect of they were not inclined to buy someone out of their mistakes. I see problems with the machine in the photos immediately. First issue is the rear mounted steps would be broken off in the first week of any land clearing job and the second one is the AC unit being cantilevered off the back of the cab will die of vibration or a tree limb in short order.

Chinese garbage. About Dressta - DRESSTA www.dressta.com TD-16N - DRESSTA www.dressta.com

I have owned a dressta td8m since 2010. It has been bullet proof.

Probably based off a Dresser design and built in Poland before Dressta was bought by a Chinese company. The other models of the new Dressta dozers don't look too bad. The TD16N has hydraulic drive but they aren't calling it hydrostatic so not sure how it works. Great visibility but is very prone to damage.

Yes, the TD8M is a poland built machine. I have owned all small dozer brands, this one just runs and runs. I have put a new seat on it, a few undercarriages , and kept the filters and fluids changed. It just runs and runs.

Didn't know about the Liugong deal. Thanks for that info.

According to their website, they only make one model that looks like that. Their other models are all traditional, flat track machines. They are still made in Poland, although owned by the Chinese.

According to the link posted they are made in China.

Welder Dave said: According to the link posted they are made in China. Click to expand... Seems to depend on what link you read. I see "designed and engineered" in China, but built in Poland. I may be looking at an old link.

The first link Shimmy posted said all our machines are engineered and built in China.

Ran a lot of TD 7,8,9H models in the past. They were simple, reliable and easy to operate. The only mechanical issues I can remember are engine mounts breaking on them. The only complaints I had were the 9’s were a little underpowered w the cumming 4BT and the blade felt like it was mounted kinda out too far in the front. Took a minute to get used to that.

H models when they first came out had all the problems I spoke of. It's nice to hear that the factory people might have listened to the dealer people about all the problems and taken care of them. The TD9H issue with the C frame was because the mounting bosses to the main frame was turned around so that the offsets faced forward. We had to weld rub pads to the C frames and main frames because of all the flex in the C frames. Roller and idler seal problems was because the factory decided not to use the standard Cat style toric seal rings and the angled metal seal rings and instead went to square rubber rings on flat seal rings. Most any dirt that got in there forced the metal rings apart and the oil was soon gone out of the roller or idler. The engine vibration issue was because the factory decided to use the Cummins engines without balance shafts. On the initial machines that we received the exhaust pipes would bang on the hoods and snap off. The first update I remember was to reset the idle up to a faster speed. The next fix came in to cut out a section of the hood and weld a box over the new hole to provide extra room for the movement. I left that dealership during that time frame and didn't know about the broken engine mounts. That's good information to know going forward if I ever have to look at one in the future.

Funny goofy looking thing. If you need good visibility, do like cat did with the good old large dozers in the past. Or just put everything in the rear and have the operator sit where the radiator is normally located.