What is a licensed mechanic? That is the most ridiculous thing ever. I suppose in that crap country everyone that has to work needs some sort of License? Wow. I just don't know how I spent so many years as a mechanic and even more as a machinist with only a drivers license and a pilots license oh yeah a few radio licenses as well.
Any interested licensed mechanics out there?
Started by chidog35 replies
chidogSenior Member#1 John C.Super User#2 Canada has required licenses for mechanics for as long as I've known. Most that I've met were on par with the best I've worked with here. I do think it likely discourages people from taking that route in life. Maybe some wrenches up there can comment.
TonesSenior Member#3 A licence doesn't make everyone good at anything, plenty of licenced car drivers couldn't and shouldn't drive a nail little alone a car
CoaldustSuper User#4 Three hots and a cot, company rig, 6-month contract, $70 clams per hour. I could sober up for that. I have an official state of Alaska issued bear baiting license and an expired passport. That should put me in the race.
Simon CSuper User#5 John C. said: Canada has required licenses for mechanics for as long as I've known. Most that I've met were on par with the best I've worked with here. I do think it likely discourages people from taking that route in life. Maybe some wrenches up there can comment. Click to expand... Have worked in that town in 1995 for Komatsu Dealer and what is not being said is that Timmins goes minus 40-45 C every winter for sometimes 1 month or more. Lots of snow and very cold. Hard to find guys who want to work outside in that cold. I split a large Pierce Pacific Log Forwarder in 2 and put back together in Minus 40-45C and just to plug in an air line to a impact needs the coupler warmed up with heat gun. Every 5 bolts or so you have to add a mixture of Dextron mixed with WD 40 and a tiny amount of Gasoline antifreeze to keep gun from freezing. Did that for 2 long 12 hour days and gun never froze with that regime. Not going there again. Simon C
DDougSuper User#6 Coaldust said: Three hots and a cot, company rig, 6-month contract, $70 clams per hour. I could sober up for that. I have an official Click to expand... Canuck Clams that is.......
Truck ShopSuper User#7 Teds looking for work, no one will go to his concerts. *
Welder DaveExpert#8 Don't appreciate Canada being called a crap country. It's an insult to a a lot forum members. As an example the late Bob/Ont was one of the most knowledgeable the forum has ever had. We have a higher standard of living than the US. As far as trades most require that you are a registered apprentice or a journeyman to work in that trade. There are some though that work in trades that aren't registered. For a journeyman it means you have so many hours working in that trade each year of the apprenticeship as well 6 weeks or more formal schooling. It used to be 1800 hours/year. It doesn't mean there can't be crappy mechanics but a large majority are well trained and very good at what they do. There are some that aren't registered or journeyman though. It's not like somebody goes around to shops all the time checking. If there was an issue and something bad happened and it was determined work was done by someone who wasn't an apprentice or j-man the company could be in big trouble. I'm in Alberta that has the largest training institute in Canada. Many of the departments are sponsored by large companies. The most recent 10 million dollar addition of the welding building is named after a large steel fabricator that donated a million dollars to it. As far as welding Alberta is recognized as the best pipe welders in the world. The welding dept. has set up training in other countries as well because of Alberta's high standards. It doesn't mean that people from other countries aren't as good just that Canada has high standards. If people from other countries come to Canada and can prove their hours in the trade and pass a Canadian test they will be given a Canadian trade certification.
Welder DaveExpert#9 Tones said: A licence doesn't make everyone good at anything, plenty of licenced car drivers couldn't and shouldn't drive a nail little alone a car Click to expand... No it doesn't. It means they had the training and hours in the trade but that doesn't automatically make everyone proficient in that trade. Some just think it's good money but don't apply themselves or just aren't made for that type of work. I've talked with apprentices who think they can get into pipeline welding because it pays the big bucks. They don't realize how hard and heavy of work it is. It takes a special breed to be a pipeline welder in all weather conditions and every weld has to be perfect to pass X-ray. It's wasn't for me.
WaterDocNew Member#10 As a licensed 310T technician there is no way I'd go to Timmins for $50-70/hr. You can make $50/hr without leaving the GTA and be home every night. Good luck.
ZewntenJunior Member#11 After chatting with several Canadian mechanics at a manufacturer training for a week I didnt see any higher quality of living just more expensive without the matching pay. From their stories the quality life seemed pretty iffy in a lot of areas that were weirdly heavily regulated for no apparent reason other than to let Uncle Beaver get his hand in the publics pocket. So no not interested at that pay range.
DDougSuper User#12 WaterDoc said: As a licensed 310T technician there is no way I'd go to Timmins for $50-70/hr. You can make $50/hr without leaving the GTA and be home every night. Good luck. Click to expand... Does Timmins have a Tim's ?
f311fr1Junior Member#13 I like that the trades are trained and certified as such. The USA needs to do something like this.
chidogSenior Member#14 f311fr1 said: I like that the trades are trained and certified as such. The USA needs to do something like this. Click to expand... Some either have the knack or don't. If you have to go to school to learn to be a mechanic then you weren't born with it. And are just a trained monkey, sorry to offend anyone, the trained monkeys are the most nasty ones to have to work with, especially in a dealership atmosphere, they seem to have a god complex.
Tyler d4cSenior Member#15 chidog said: Some either have the knack or don't. If you have to go to school to learn to be a mechanic then you weren't born with it. And are just a trained monkey, sorry to offend anyone, the trained monkeys are the most nasty ones to have to work with, especially in a dealership atmosphere, they seem to have a god complex. Click to expand... I explain it as if you never figured out the problem when you where miles away and hours away you dont have the nac for it to fix it one must become it im someways
WillsMaxNew Member#16 Paper on the wall don't turn a wrench. Known plenty of ticketed guys who couldn't diagnose their way out of a paper bag, and old timers with no license who could fix anything. Regulation just adds cost.
Welder DaveExpert#17 There's good and bad in every job and a lot in the middle. If someone is working on something like tanker trucks with highly flammable materials I'd want somebody well trained and knowledgeable working on them rather than someone that thinks they know. An apprenticeship requires that training. Doesn't mean a journeyman is the best but they did get the training and have to pass written and practical tests. That's why trades that go through technical schools are better than someone who gets their training just reading books but has no practical experience in the field.
Truck ShopSuper User#18 Shops years back farmed they're own. Many only ever worked for possibly two different dealers or independents in a life time. Job jumping wasn't a thing, and getting a job at one required someone retiring or they died creating a opening. They bought one house normally and stayed there, training was factory, the rest was on the job. Then vo-tech entered the scene and all of the above disappeared.
AcoalsJunior Member#19 f311fr1 said: I like that the trades are trained and certified as such. The USA needs to do something like this. Click to expand... Ah, yes, just what we need, more government ! ! !
Simon CSuper User#20 Welder Dave said: There's good and bad in every job and a lot in the middle. If someone is working on something like tanker trucks with highly flammable materials I'd want somebody well trained and knowledgeable working on them rather than someone that thinks they know. An apprenticeship requires that training. Doesn't mean a journeyman is the best but they did get the training and have to pass written and practical tests. That's why trades that go through technical schools are better than someone who gets their training just reading books but has no practical experience in the field. Click to expand... All I know is that I have never in my life met anyone who could do 100% perfect welds without having some formal training and had to do school training before they would ever be considered for the real pipeline welders world. There was a man where I did contracting, who had done more than 100, 6-12 inch pipe welds and did not have to redo one after Xray checking. He was born with some real talent and then was trained by some other experts. Simon C