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Free quarry overburdened?post away

Started by Deere500a41 replies

  1. CM1995Expert#21

    Overburden here depends on the quality of the limestone. If it's just a crushed stone quarry operation the overburden is the topsoil and dirt that covers the limestone vein. Might be a few feet deep or 20'. Now if it's a chemical lime quarry they may blast and haul off off 30-40' of limestone that is not the quality they are looking for. One chemical lime quarry has a partnership with a road builder/asphalt company to bring this limestone overburden to their crusher operation set up adjacent to the pit. We buy most of our crushed rock from them. Sometimes we order "waste rock" which is the tailings between the belts, the edges of the piles that have mixed together and misc. clean up. It can be good and it can be not so good. We have gotten waste rock loads that was a nice 8910 and 57 mix then other loads with rip-rap mixed in. Usually the waste rock is $5-6 a ton less than DGB with runs $20-22 a ton across the scale not including trucking.

  2. cuttin edgeSenior Member#22

    I delivered a load of drainage stone to a fella that had moved here from the west. He was concerned that the stone would break down over time. I had to grab some stone out of the back to show him how hard it was. Im assuming he was used to a limestone material

  3. materthegreaterSuper User#23

    cuttin edge said: I delivered a load of drainage stone to a fella that had moved here from the west. He was concerned that the stone would break down over time. I had to grab some stone out of the back to show him how hard it was. Im assuming he was used to a limestone material Click to expand... I had a customer tell me once that he didn't want me to use a ledge product on his driveway because he heard that ledge turns to mud.

  4. Deere500aSenior Member#24

    Reply got here have been running into trying get supplies, lumberyard gone using lowes & hd asking around here deadends .Brunt out trying doing hobby projects/handyman dead ends for my aunt & I'm flying out for while.She pays+tips crew she has tree work done Simple small jobs she cant find hire out lic/good people. The driveway covert was rusted out failed simple hour job with mini ex figure couple calls have a 10" or 12" x20' poly pipe/steel needed 12' searching & calls waiting on call backs hdpe suppliers anyone had pipe listed days gone past 1 had in stock but $400 end at Tractor supply $130 12"x10' don't stock it +$100 over size fee had drive 90mi another Ts had the pipe on the self. Cut down a 12' palm tree landfill sign all greenwaste $20 walk up girl at the window $124 her familia repeat $124 landfill off table for dump runs. Lot of wasted days. Driveway is a hazard for her exposed roots low spots ruts yes want to build it Up but look at hire a dump delivery is $700ea load form there spoil pile not from a quarry & $50/60 a ton project priced out figure about 10tons go from there. Some prices have ran into are tourist traps stop put plan on back burner. Gone

  5. HarleyHappySuper User#25

    materthegreater said: I had a customer tell me once that he didn't want me to use a ledge product on his driveway because he heard that ledge turns to mud. Click to expand... Well, as someone that has 1600’ feet of grey driveway, it does kinda, or did turn to grey mud. Then I installed 1200’ of driveway fabric and now the wife wants to do the rest of the gravel, to keep the grey mud splatter, off her white car. It’s getting very hard to find grey stone around here lately. It’s mostly brown and I don’t want to mix the colors. To me, stone dust, should be grey but have worked with the brown and it doesn’t seem to lock together as well.

  6. HarleyHappySuper User#26

    I was getting 3/4 mini pack here delivered, for 400$ a tri-axle load, last year. First load this year was up to 480$. Diesel needed for everything, from drillers, blasters, loaders, trucks. Unfortunately dense grade doesn’t tailgate well!

  7. CM1995Expert#27

    HarleyHappy said: I was getting 3/4 mini pack here delivered, for 400$ a tri-axle load, last year. First load this year was up to 480$. Diesel needed for everything, from drillers, blasters, loaders, trucks. Unfortunately dense grade doesn’t tailgate well! Click to expand... That is cheap. Ordered 250 tons of DGB for a recent project about 6 miles from the quarry. It was $600 per 25 ton load delivered. 25 tons @ $19 per TN for the rock and $5 TN haul.

  8. materthegreaterSuper User#28

    HarleyHappy said: Well, as someone that has 1600’ feet of grey driveway, it does kinda, or did turn to grey mud. Then I installed 1200’ of driveway fabric and now the wife wants to do the rest of the gravel, to keep the grey mud splatter, off her white car. It’s getting very hard to find grey stone around here lately. It’s mostly brown and I don’t want to mix the colors. To me, stone dust, should be grey but have worked with the brown and it doesn’t seem to lock together as well. Click to expand... The only places I've seen it turn to mud is where it isn't shaped properly and can't drain off. But then anything that gets saturated with water will turn to mud so it's no different than anything else. Around here it's about the opposite. Very few sand/gravel pits with brown material to be found. Almost everything comes from blasted ledge which is typically some variation of grey. Or maybe gray. Depends on who you ask. I think the brown stuff doesn't lock together as well because it has sand in it, which is round, not angular like stone dust.

  9. CM1995Expert#29

    materthegreater said: But then anything that gets saturated with water will turn to mud so it's no different than anything else. Click to expand... Our limestone won't. #24's which is typical for a construction entrance here. Average golf ball sized but angular from going through the crusher. This load was a little over $900 delivered - 25 tons. And they wonder why sitework costs so much.

  10. cuttin edgeSenior Member#30

    CM1995 said: Our limestone won't. #24's which is typical for a construction entrance here. Average golf ball sized but angular from going through the crusher. This load was a little over $900 delivered - 25 tons. And they wonder why sitework costs so much. View attachment 359767 Click to expand... Is that loose to clean tires before you go on the road

  11. CM1995Expert#31

    cuttin edge said: Is that loose to clean tires before you go on the road Click to expand... Yeah. It's supposed to clean the mud off as the trucks leave. Works ok but doesn't get it all.

  12. cuttin edgeSenior Member#32

    Used to do it here with round rock. But most of it left between duel wheels

  13. CM1995Expert#33

    These #24's are just small enough to not get caught in the duals.

  14. JaredVJunior Member#34

    It's interesting what different areas call rock products. Around here crushed rock is whatever screen size it went through, like 1-1/4-" or 1-2". Round rock is screenings, pea rock, con agg or 1-2". I'd never heard of #xx's or Class x until I started hanging out here. Maybe it's because we tend to have a lot of hard rock pits.

  15. materthegreaterSuper User#35

    CM1995 said: Our limestone won't. Click to expand... I think the mud Harley and I are referring to is when the surface fines (stone dust) get soft from large amounts of rain, and like he mentioned, can get picked up by tires and make the car look nasty. This is not the same as when a driveway gets structurally soft to the point that ruts are made. That usually only happens in the spring when the frost is going out, which I'm guessing isn't an issue in your neck of the woods.

  16. CM1995Expert#36

    materthegreater said: I think the mud Harley and I are referring to is when the surface fines (stone dust) get soft from large amounts of rain, and like he mentioned, can get picked up by tires and make the car look nasty. This is not the same as when a driveway gets structurally soft to the point that ruts are made. That usually only happens in the spring when the frost is going out, which I'm guessing isn't an issue in your neck of the woods. Click to expand... Figured it was a different type of stone. We have stone dust here "8910" that works pretty well for driveways and ditch fill if compacted. It's basically crushed 1/4" down limestone and it sets up pretty hard if it's thick enough.

  17. BC Placer goldSenior Member#37

    CM1995 said: These #24's are just small enough to not get caught in the duals. Click to expand... Every time I leave our mining claim I look down into the duals (just a pickup) To make sure no rocks have wedged. I seem to be on good terms with the local cvse inspector & want to keep it that way!

  18. Deere500aSenior Member#38

    Carny to sale this as driveway material

  19. Deere500aSenior Member#39

    Order Class 2 is state Dot "Caltrans" spec for hwy, road base for the binder clay/sand 3/4"rock mix for compaction & flex class 3 is for water pass through / 3/4 baserock non spec. Quarry 10 miles apart 6"+ "rip rap" other 6"+ "headstones". Concrete recycle 3/4 base was cheap because of silica dust that asphalt recycle didn't have but 2024 law change

  20. Deere500aSenior Member#40

    In Cali that's roofer's trash money to dump. Clay tile light weight fiberglass tile

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