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Gooseneck hitch rating

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  1. Schenannigans5006New Member#1

    I would like to haul the 28,000 pound farm tractor down the highway, so I'm shopping for the beefiest gooseneck or the tiniest lowboy/step deck I can find. My question is, I have found trailers with triple 12.5k axles but the sellers don't show and don't seem to know the actual gvwr of the trailer. Do goose neck hitches ever get over 30,000 pound ratings? Also, I want a low deck height, if i find a 22.5 lowboy that will work for me, can I swap hubs to run 17.5s instead?

  2. JunkyardSenior Member#2

    I’ll answer a bit out of order. No, a hub change will not allow 17.5’s on a 22.5 equipped trailer. The brakes and backing plate/spider are completely different. After having one, I wouldn’t take a triple axle gooseneck for anything regardless of axle rating. A trailer with dual 15k’s would get you close. I’ve seen a 38k gvw gooseneck with 15k’s that would get you close to a 28k payload. I would want a hutch style suspension as well, no simple evener setup is going to last under a load like that. What are you pulling it with and how far would you be hauling it?

  3. Schenannigans5006New Member#3

    Pulling with a Mack s/a picker truck, so its heavy. I cant pack the weight of a typical lowboy, and the only one ive found that could work is a 1987 Trail King for $20,000. Theres plenty of big goose necks around that are much newer for the same price or even less. But, even with 38k axle ratings, are the pin style hitches good for it? My current one is a 4" square tube but the insert is still 30,000lbs max. Only hauling to town for tractors to get worked on by dealership, but gotta pass the scales along the way

  4. Schenannigans5006New Member#5

    ah, well that is good to know that I can upgrade inserts. Thank you for this.

  5. cuttin edgeSenior Member#6

    How well do you know your regulations? If you never have to cross state lines. Maybe stop at the scales and ask them what you need. Here in Canada every province is a bit different from weight to how you tie it down. A friend of mine worked for a rental company. He drove a 1 ton truck with a tri axle goose neck. Said it scared him what he was allowed to haul. He crossed the scales with a 90 foot man lift and a couple platform lifts, and when they have him the green light he actually pulled over and went in to verify

  6. Schenannigans5006New Member#7

    Im in alberta, which i believe is the most liberal weight restrictions in the country. I have called the scales before, and they usually track down an officer who can answer my questions. But, to haul a 28,000 pound tractor, im shopping for a triple 12k axle gooseneck, and need the 40,000 hitch for sure. Hydraulic tail would be nice... My 23,000 pound truck should safely manage em all, but drive axle weight is 5700kgs empty, max legal at 9100

  7. MG84Senior Member#8

    A trailer like this would be ideal, these are really good trailers for the money: 50,000 GVWR – 40' Drop Deck Flatbed Trailer | Kaufman Shop the 50,000 GVWR 40 ft. drop deck flatbed trailer with a 35 in. loaded deck height and 39,000 lb. distributed load capacity. View full specs. www.kaufmantrailers.com Shipping might be high from NC to AB though

  8. skyking1Super User#9

    that is a nice trailer @MG84 Annoying that they did not include a scale weight in the specifications. Everything else is there. My guesstimate is ~15K. 15 +28 =43 minus 8000 for his hitch weight 35K on two axles. That would be far sweeter than a gooseneck IMO. Without figuring in an actual trailer weight it is a fruitless exercise on a gooseneck, and I would prefer a 5th wheel with that kind of weight 100 times out of 100, with air brakes. If those gooses you are looking at are electric brakes, yeah gotta say I have a hard bias against that much weight on a blue wire hookup.

  9. Schenannigans5006New Member#10

    I hear ya. My current electric brakes don't always behave, I think because the battery is 11 years old... It's a tough one to shop for without getting over $30,000. And TrailKing quoted me a beautiful 2x20,000 11.5 dovetail trailer at $98,000

  10. Schenannigans5006New Member#11

    I just found the answer to my question. A local Alberta company is selling trailers called Double A payload series 50k, with a 4.5 tube, kingpin, and 3x16k axles. Haven't found the price tag yet

  11. Steve FrazierJunior Member#12

    Check with Kaufman Trailers. I've bought several from the both personally and at work, they can build to just about any specs you require.

  12. NepeanGCNew Member#13

    Not a gooseneck, but I've got a triple 15k axle 40ft tag that was built by Milano trailer here in Ontario. Was less than $50k 3 years ago. I'm legal for 35k lbs + whatever I can get on the pintle.

  13. cfherrmanSenior Member#14

    My customer has a triple axle gooseneck and it's the dumbest trailer I have seen, too heavy empty and you can barely put anything on it as it's already too heavy with nothing on it.. Get a 5th wheel, a real one

  14. Old DougSenior Member#15

    cfherrman said: My customer has a triple axle gooseneck and it's the dumbest trailer I have seen, too heavy empty and you can barely put anything on it as it's already too heavy with nothing on it.. Get a 5th wheel, a real one Click to expand... I wonder what would a gooseneck really hold up to ? I work at a place that has a Gas station and is in the middle of a Amish community . The Amish hire alot of stuff hauled . Most of the drivers are good guys but this is there first deal and the Amish want the biggest bang for there buck. So i see stuff every day that makes me cringe.

  15. cfherrmanSenior Member#16

    It's not the gooseneck, it's the tow vehicle.

  16. suladasJunior Member#17

    You can find a tandem stepdeck for reasonable price, there was one at auction here recently went for $14.5k it was older but looked clean and was a tilt deck 2 20k air axles, was easily a 30 ton trailer. Or what about on a pintle? You can find decent tandem air trailer for under $10k at auction with being allowed 37,400 on trailer axles empty trailer weights about 8000 with some pin weight you could go up to around 35,000 on it. You're going to pay more for a electric brake gooseneck and it's going to be a inferior trailer in everyway, most of them are built like garbage compared to the heavy trailers. Parts are also way more for brakes and there is no comparison to how much better air brakes stop. Here in Alberta there is no regulations for what you can tow, as long as you are not exceeding any tire or axle rating you could technically tow 100k behind a 3500 and be perfectly legal.

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